Joel and Luke chat with game designer Ben McKenzie about writing and developing interactive fiction as well as Stranger Things and difficulties in opening Fishermans Friend packets.

This podcast was recorded live at the Brunswick Street Bookstore.

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If you have any questions or want to get in touch with us, you can email Joel – mailbox@thepenofjoel.com

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